Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:45 am

Wow did this method piss some people off at my brewclub last night.... well one guy anyway.
So I gave a short presentation whilst waiting for the contest to get started up and MAN are some people stuck in their ways.
I started out saying hey here's an idea for all those who want to try all grain and see if they like it... went through the process and WOW. Quite a few people were interested but one said "all grain is all about the processes, if you don't want to do all that you might as well just do extract"
Note this is also the guy who totally pisses all over batch sparging as because of efficiency reasons... even though 3 of the last 4 winning beers in our monthly contests were batch sparged. Some people gotta open their minds and begin to think perhaps my way isn't the only way.

BTW I have yet to try this method but it looks interesting.
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Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:42 pm

BIAB and NoChill seem to be the most contentious - and heated - discussions on AHB.

I still cannot get my head around how some can be so passionately against a brewing technique that they haven't tried and doesn't actually affect them.

I suppose it is good to see that people are the same the world over, Bub.
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bub wrote:Wow did this method piss some people off at my brewclub last night.... well one guy anyway.
So I gave a short presentation whilst waiting for the contest to get started up and MAN are some people stuck in their ways.
I started out saying hey here's an idea for all those who want to try all grain and see if they like it... went through the process and WOW. Quite a few people were interested but one said "all grain is all about the processes, if you don't want to do all that you might as well just do extract"
Note this is also the guy who totally pisses all over batch sparging as because of efficiency reasons... even though 3 of the last 4 winning beers in our monthly contests were batch sparged. Some people gotta open their minds and begin to think perhaps my way isn't the only way.

BTW I have yet to try this method but it looks interesting.
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Bub as far as I know batch sparging is actually what was first used to sparge, The way I see it the efficiency is directly related to the gear used and not the technique. I did finally make a small batch with the BIAB system and WOW my efficiency was really good 84% I need to do more to make sure of it but if thats the number I get, I think all my competition beers are going to be BIAB. Heres a good question too, has anyone won a competition with BIAB?
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Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:59 am

This is brilliant! I was stuck brewing 10 liter extract batches because of my small apt... Tried to build a small mash tun from a cooler, but couldn't get it to work properly, and it looks kinda out of place stored on top of the tv (yes, the apt is ridiculously small). I'm getting a polyester bag tomorrow :)

Thanks!
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Kacey wrote: . . . . . Heres a good question too, has anyone won a competition with BIAB?


Kacey - Here in Oz the comp season has pretty much run its course, with only (one version of) the Nationals left to go.

I don't know of anyone else apart from me that entered any BIAB beers in comps, but I entered three, accross two different comps. Only one of them was really ready to be entered into anything, but I entered all three just so I could get some feedback about possible common flaws that could be related to the technique.

Results - the two that weren't ready did poorly. An immature barleywine that scored 23 - havent received the feed back sheets yet - and a Rye IPA that got pinged failry hard for underattenuation, underbitterness and just generally being uninspiring. Fair enough too seeing as I tapped out just enough to fill two bottles straight from the primary fermentation... the rest I didn't bottle for another three weeks.

The one that did a bit better was an oatmeal stout that scored 33 and came seventh out of 27 in the Stout category - knocked down for being a bit thin and not having enough oatmeal for style.

Encouragingly, there was no "theme" to the criticisms of the judges... nothing common that could be nailed down to the BIAB technique itself. But it was only three beers, so probably not a really significant sample.

This year my competition focus was on beers I made on my "normal" system, so the BIAB brews were just tossed in to get some data... next year I will concentrate on them a bit more and try to do a little better. A medal for a BIAB brew would save me a lot of arguing ........

Boob - See, I told you people get all upset about it. I don't get it - but it seems to really piss some people off.

0 (with a line through) - Cool, you'll like BIAB and find it really easy to do, but don't give up on that mash tun either. Do the BIAB thing and get some AG brews under your belt... but then go back and sort that mash tun out as well. If you master both techniques, then you can pick the one that suits your time, space and inclination. And you will be a better brewer for it. But in the meantime - go for the bag. Any questions, feel free to ask. I'm only too happy to help.

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Thirsty Boy wrote:
0 (with a line through) - Cool, you'll like BIAB and find it really easy to do, but don't give up on that mash tun either. Do the BIAB thing and get some AG brews under your belt... but then go back and sort that mash tun out as well. If you master both techniques, then you can pick the one that suits your time, space and inclination. And you will be a better brewer for it. But in the meantime - go for the bag. Any questions, feel free to ask. I'm only too happy to help.

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Right now, I think BIAB is my only hope for brewing AG with decent results. I'll try it out this weekend on a bitter, and if that works out, I'm brewing DC's RIPA next week. Can't wait! :D
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:42 pm

It seems the biggest issue facing people outside of Australia is finding the Swiss Voile Nylon fabric we use.

I'm hoping this helps...
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Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:56 pm

Nice work Spills, I think that shows what you mean really well. Definitely a mesh, just a really fine one !!

If thats not enough; and people are still unsure or unable to get a haberdashery employee to understand what the hell they are talking about.... just shoot me a PM and I'll post over a handkerchief sized swatch of the stuff.

Cheers Spills

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