Re: The infamous "6 Gallon Batch"

Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:50 am

Ha! I missed some good stuff not checking this thread for a week or two!

I bet you are a "winning" poker player who calls everyone else donks too.

No where in my response did I talk down to you. I just confirmed what you experienced; that all the options can be confusing. I simply said there is a way to get the program to do what you want on any "level".

And yes, the 8th level nerd comments was tongue in check.

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Re: The infamous "6 Gallon Batch"

Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:39 am

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Re: The infamous "6 Gallon Batch"

Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:19 pm

atomicpunk wrote:I bet you are a "winning" poker player who calls everyone else donks too.

I don't even care to figure out what that means.

atomicpunk wrote:No where in my response did I talk down to you.

Really?

atomicpunk wrote:As with any software program, crap in = crap out.

You need to know the theory and basics behind what the program is trying to do for you so you can check the output.

The only way I can read that is that I am putting in bad numbers, which is why I get bad numbers out, and that I need to go learn the basics of how brewing calculations work. I had even just explained that I had checked the numbers, as did the other poster, and we found they were bad. We also stated we experienced the same fanboyism on the BeerSmith forum for bringing the issue up.

I am not surprised at your response or attitude, it is the same boilerplate fanboy responses given over on the BeerSmith forum (and others) anytime someone brings up an issue with BeerSmith. Even after proving to them it calculates something incorrectly, the response is 'who cares, it's close enough, shut up and quit whining', or 'after brewing the recipe 5 or 6 times and adjusting the (fantasy) 'brewhouse efficiency', you will get good numbers'.

atomicpunk wrote: I just confirmed what you experienced; that all the options can be confusing. I simply said there is a way to get the program to do what you want on any "level".

I am not confused by all the options, and quit talking down to me. I am confused by all the incorrect numbers BeerSmith generates when any options are actually used, which I verified. I can make BeerSmith give me almost any numbers I want, regardless of the ingredients, batch size, efficiency, etc. There are a very limited set of user actions that produce numbers even close to right. There are numerous threads about this, and how you have to hold your tongue just right when using BeerSmith. Even the fanboys admit this, but blame anyone who complains about it for 'tricking' the software- shame on me for expecting the software to do properly.

It seems the only way to get BeerSmith to generate proper numbers is to do them yourself. Isn't the whole point of brewing software to not have to do that? For most guys who brew standard 5 gallon batches, the errors are within their brewing tolerance anyway. For larger batches, actually using the trub loss field, no/batch sparge and BIAB sparging, scaling recipes, etc, the errors start to have an impact.

atomicpunk wrote:Welcome to the forums, dick! (NOT TONGUE IN CHECK)

Spoken like a true Cult of BeerSmith fanboy.
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Re: The infamous "6 Gallon Batch"

Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:35 pm

Cult = 5
Fanboy= 13
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Re: The infamous "6 Gallon Batch"

Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:54 pm

Shit Head = 1
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Re: The infamous "6 Gallon Batch"

Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:39 am

BeerSmith cult members/fanboys = 6
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Re: The infamous "6 Gallon Batch"

Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:59 am

@iamright - it's obvious anyone who just deals with the errors and makes good beer despite the flaws in the software is a 'fanboy' or in the cult of beersmith. Fine, we all agree with you.
But just drop the 'i'm a dick and I'm right' routine and let's all just pretend like we don't like flaming each other on the forum. That shit doesn't belong on this or any other homebrew forum.
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Re: The infamous "6 Gallon Batch"

Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:39 am

IAmRight wrote:BeerSmith cult members/fanboys = 6

Pencil, paper, and calculator guys =1
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