Re: Peaches and Cream

Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:04 am

I would let the beer sit on the peaches for at least 1 mos if not more. 1-2 wks is relatively short for such a high gravity brew to blend with the subtle flavor of peaches. I recommend adding some extract flavoring for additional flavor/aroma at packaging time (but not the whole bottle).

Fresh peaches are definitely the way to go if you can find them cheap. Don't worry about the pasteurization method as that is a big PITA. Simply clean them and depit them well. Cut them into chunks with a sanitized knife, and place them in a freezer bag ( I spray mine with starsan). Freeze for at least 2 days to rupture cell walls and reduce microbes on the fruit.

When you are ready to use them, boil some water in a small kettle (that will fit all of your frozen peaches) to sanitize the kettle and lid. Dump the water, and add your peaches and put the lid back on. Let the peaches defrost (this will take a few hrs and can be sped up by letting them defrost slightly in the bag first). With a sanitized funnel (I use a small liter plastic soda bottle, cut in half, fits right in the mouth of a carboy) and scoop add your peaches into the carboy. I then purge my carboy with CO2 to reduce oxidation in my beer. Carefully rack the beer on top of the fruit (don't be afraid to suck up some yeast to help ferment the fruit) and then purge the headspace again. This technique minimizes oxidation occuring to the beer before secondary fermentation of the fruit takes off (which can take a couple days sometimes). Let the fruit sit. The longer the better.
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Re: Peaches and Cream

Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:47 am

Cream to me seems more vanilla than milk. Would you consider oak aging or adding a dash of vanilla? I think a little vanilla would go a long way. Perhaps even bourbon/vanilla (delicately)... makes me think of a peach cobbler.
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Re: Peaches and Cream

Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:58 pm

Brewinhard: Thanks, that method seems pretty solid I might give it a try. The length of time in the secondary is really going to be dependant on taste. I was just going to give it a try every week or so and bottle when it tasted "a little too peachy" I may give the extract a try if a month goes by and its still not quite there.

Thatguy314: Sweet Idea! what do you think a couple of meadium toast American oak cubes soaked in bourbon in the 2ndary with the peaches? (going to have to revisit the shea comfort episode) Balancing the oak and peach flavor at the same time could be tricky but given enough time the flavors should meld nicely. Thanks!

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Re: Peaches and Cream

Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:30 pm

Pharmbrewer wrote:Brewinhard: Thanks, that method seems pretty solid I might give it a try. The length of time in the secondary is really going to be dependant on taste. I was just going to give it a try every week or so and bottle when it tasted "a little too peachy" I may give the extract a try if a month goes by and its still not quite there.

Thatguy314: Sweet Idea! what do you think a couple of meadium toast American oak cubes soaked in bourbon in the 2ndary with the peaches? (going to have to revisit the shea comfort episode) Balancing the oak and peach flavor at the same time could be tricky but given enough time the flavors should meld nicely. Thanks!

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I drink a lot of oaked beer, but I haven't brewed with oak. From what I understand American Oak has a more robust vanilla character, so it could be good, but I'm certainly not an expert on it.

As far as bourbon, I find that it takes a lot of time to mellow and meld with the beer in all the bourbon beers I've tried. If you want it ready in a couple months I would emphasize that less is more. I've used it to make vanilla extract, because I find the oakiness of bourbon blends really well with vanilla. I put about 6oz with 3 vanilla beans in a 12 oz beer bottle and sealed it in my fridge for 3 weeks. I only ended up using a very little (2 oz or so for 5 gallons) but I got a nice firm but delicate vanilla/bourbon character.
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Re: Peaches and Cream

Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:22 am

thatguy314 wrote:Cream to me seems more vanilla than milk. Would you consider oak aging or adding a dash of vanilla? I think a little vanilla would go a long way. Perhaps even bourbon/vanilla (delicately)... makes me think of a peach cobbler.


That really does sound unique and delicious. Adding a couple teaspoons of vanilla extract might really help to round and meld all the flavors together in the end. I would probably add this at kegging time though. Good idea guy314!
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Re: Peaches and Cream

Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:15 pm

Thanks for all the help.

My revised plan is to brew this at the end of aug rack onto 10 lbs peaches and 2 american medium toast oak cubes (soaked in bourbon for 2 weeks) let it sit for a month then add peach and vanilla extract to taste at bottleing time. I plan to bottle condition instead of kegging. Then I'm going to lock it all up somewhere and freeze the key in a large chunk of ice that I'll thaw out next summer :D

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Re: Peaches and Cream

Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:32 am

So I got this started later than I had planned but, the beer has now been sitting on 10 lbs of fresh peaches for 3 weeks and is now down to 1.016. (Started at 1.086 before the peaches were added.) I tasted it and it is very sour to me. Not infected sour but just sour from all the peach flavor with none of the sweetness. I had anticipated the residual sugar and lactose keeping my fg in the 1.020's. Apparently I overcompensated the fermentables. Anyway I was thinking of backsweetening with some more lactose when I rack this to the keg and then oak it . So I have a couple of questions.

Should I wait untill after I have oaked it (using 2 oz medium toast oak soaked in Southern comfort) and taste to see how much sweeter I want it?

How many gravity points per pound the lactose will add to my FG?

Also how many points did I add with the 10 lbs of peaches?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Peaches and Cream

Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:54 am

According to http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/fru ... ces/1990/2 a 175g peach has 15g of sugar which is probably fructose. You could figure it out from there.

If you're back sweetening I would just wait until right before bottlking/kegging
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