What the Berliner Weisse is going on???

[brewinhard]

I did not think that Fantome used pedio in their beers, but I could be wrong. Interesting that you got such a noticeable butter thing from building up the dregs. How much did you build them up? Was it just a small starter to get them going or several steps? I was planning on pitching my Fantome dregs right when I pitched my ale yeast once the beer cooled low enough and the lacto had a good 1-2 day start on the wort. I will be doing this one by the end of the month hopefully. A lot of research and communication has gone into this brew, now its time to take some action!

[ChrisKennedy]

I am getting it after only a 300ml beginning step.

[SamGamgee]

My berliner is at about a month in the carboy and has just a very light tartness too it. With the longer aging after pitching dregs, do you rack off the yeast to prevent autalysis? Should I wait another month before pitching anything to see if the lacto kicks in? I only gave the lacto a 30hr headstart before pitching wyeast euro ale yeast, and now I'm regretting not waiting longer.

[ChrisKennedy]

I would rack it and add dregs from something like Lindeman's Cuvee Rene.

Where is your gravity now?

[JimL]

A friend of mine got his WL vial the same time as me, made a starter on Friday night that hit high krausen in 36 hours and pitched it. He's doing the same method as I am by spitting the ale yeast and bacteria in different carboys. Today he offered me a liter or so of his fermenting wort to add to my carboy. The other option I have is getting a new vial and making a starter similar to him. Which one do you think would work best?

[ChrisKennedy]

Might as well get some of his fermenting beer, cheaper that way. That should work just fine.

[brewinhard]

Fuck it, I would do both. Seems like one can't get enough lacto in these beers. I know people have even added a fresh pack of lacto at bottling time as well.

[SamGamgee]

I would rack it and add dregs from something like Lindeman's Cuvee Rene.

Where is your gravity now?

Gravity is about 1.006. So Cuvee Rene has pretty good dregs? I guess maybe I just don't trust them because of the pasteurized, sweetened stuff that they put out.