Re: Cheap Chinese 2-stage Temp Controller

Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:02 pm

I bit today on this. Hell, what is $20 for the greatest hobby in the free world :)

I wonder how long it takes to get from China :)
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Re: Cheap Chinese 2-stage Temp Controller

Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:03 pm

I wonder how long it takes to get from China



Let us know!!! Please
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Re: Cheap Chinese 2-stage Temp Controller

Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:27 am

Kbar wrote:
Quin wrote:The specs show amp limit of 10 amps at 250v. You might check your compressor to make sure it's less.


More so, applied to the relay to control the voltage signal to turn the heating element on/off for the HLT and RIMS. I think 10 amps is enough to do the SSR.


Ok, you're gonna have to put this in Barney language. Are you saying that these things are capable of running an electric HLT? I'm trying to make a HERMS system, all electric. These controllers seem like a good substitution for the Love controlers in Push's Wort-o-Matic. Is this a correct assumption?
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Re: Cheap Chinese 2-stage Temp Controller

Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:56 am

TheMadHopper wrote: Are you saying that these things are capable of running an electric HLT?


Yes, they are with the understanding that they are differential mode controllers which means that if you set the controller for 50 °C it will come on and stay on until the temperature reached 50 plus the differential. The smallest differential for this unit is 0.3 °C (0.54 °F) so this means that, assuming the minimum differential, the heater will stay on until 50.3 °C is reached and then turn off. As the heating element will still be hotter than the water (or mash or whatever you are controlling the temperature of) when the power is switched off the temperature will continue to rise somewhat beyond 50.3 and then begin to decline as the water cools. The heater will stay off until the temperature reaches 50 °C at which time the heater is switched back on and the cycle repeats. Thus a plot of the temperature will show a series of triangles or sawteeth with peak to trough difference equal to the differential setting plus a little. This is certainly aceeptable in some applications (such as controlling a refrigeration system or turning glycol flow on and off to a fermenter's jacket(s) and in fact probably quite acceptable for RIMS, HERMS or conventional mash tun control but some people may want tighter, more unifiorm control of temperature. For them the more expensive (and difficult to set up) PID controllers are the way to go.

A SSR will absolutely be required if the heater draws more than the contact ratings on the unit and probably a good idea even if it draws less. Using one allows you to do all your "control" wiring at low voltage (though the device itself is powered by a mains connection).
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Re: Cheap Chinese 2-stage Temp Controller

Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:24 am

Are we saying that these won't burn my house down (most likely) if I get these and replace my A419's?
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Re: Cheap Chinese 2-stage Temp Controller

Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:21 pm

I've never used a dual stage but I'm about to pull the trigger on this thing. I have a question:

Do I need 2 probes? How do you get extras if I do need them?
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Re: Cheap Chinese 2-stage Temp Controller

Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:59 pm

So I bought this controller and either did not read the specs or they sent the wrong one, but the readout is only in degrees C. Not a fight I want to go through. I did land a great new controller though. My company makes these, and some friends in high places got me one from Chicago as they had an extra one in stock :)

See my website. Attachments is the link below.

http://sites.google.com/site/kostenbaue ... un-and-hlt

I am working on the next cart that has the mash tun and HLT on it with this controller running the pumps and feedback loop for the HLT.
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Re: Cheap Chinese 2-stage Temp Controller

Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:34 pm

For the savings, I think I'll pick one up and put a little celcius to fahrenheit conversion chart next to it. Thanks for the info though... that is really helpful to know. I'd be really sorry if I did my first brew and set it for 69 C.

How long did it take for it to get to you?

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