Re: NHC competition

Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:56 pm

Nice mine now have a green check!
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Re: NHC competition

Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:02 pm

Looks like they're getting things worked out. I wouldn't want to be them for the next few days.
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Re: NHC competition

Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:12 am

Well, you all have fun! I guess those of us that got as far as registering but could not squeeze any entries in through the 505 pages are SOL.

Will be interesting to see if entry spots open up as people who were able to enter drop "placeholder" entries by not paying for them.
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Re: NHC competition

Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:06 am

DannyW wrote:Well, you all have fun! I guess those of us that got as far as registering but could not squeeze any entries in through the 505 pages are SOL.

Will be interesting to see if entry spots open up as people who were able to enter drop "placeholder" entries by not paying for them.


Definitely keep an eye open. You may be able to get one or two in there if it is timed right. If I see anything, I'll try to post it in here.
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Re: NHC competition

Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:50 am

Any time you have 100's of people hitting a website all at once ... shit is going to break down. It is not easy to keep a server running when you have a missive influx of users. I strongly believe that the AHA is doing the best that they can given the unprecidented amount of homebrewers wanting to participate ... it is probably all the BN's fault and now we have one more thing for other "clubs" to bitch at us about.

With that said, I was able to get 3 entries registered in about 20 minutes. During that time entries went from 450 for the region to over 600. After reading this thread, I'll consider myself lucky!!!

I am also sad to announce that after earning points (first round a least) for the BN over the last 2 years NHC and being able to be there in person for the Club of the Year awards, I now have a local club (Whiskey Row Brew Club, of which I am now President) that I will designate as my club for competitions. I'm sure you all "traditional club"less BN'ers can carry the torch without me! Good luck to all.
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Re: NHC competition

Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:16 pm

EagleDude wrote: it is probably all the BN's fault and now we have one more thing for other "clubs" to bitch at us about.

You're probably right. I decided to go to the the 2007 NHC late and got tickets and rooms a couple of days after they went on sale. The BN was there but wasn't broadcasting. Once the BN started broadcasting at NHC, the sell out time got shorter and shorter. I think Gary Glass has even said as much.
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Re: NHC competition

Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:51 pm

EagleDude wrote:I am also sad to announce that after earning points (first round a least) for the BN over the last 2 years NHC and being able to be there in person for the Club of the Year awards, I now have a local club (Whiskey Row Brew Club, of which I am now President) that I will designate as my club for competitions.


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Re: NHC competition

Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:07 pm

EagleDude wrote:I strongly believe that the AHA is doing the best that they can given the unprecidented amount of homebrewers wanting to participate ... it is probably all the BN's fault and now we have one more thing for other "clubs" to bitch at us about.

I agree and disagree with that statement. Did the AHA want this to happen, no they want things to go smooth and work. They do not want to lose membership, which I have heard from a few of my friends that they were considering dropping membership. I think this is because there are 3 distinct benefits of membership (obviously there are a few others, GABF member session, pub discounts, and a few others).

1) attandence of the NHC
2) participation in the NHC brewing competition.
3) the Zymergy magazine

This year, many people were not able to get into the NHC due to it selling out in about 12 hours (the hotel was booked up prior to the release of the conference), which is pretty bogus and defeats benefit number one. Now many people were not able to participate in the competition portion because of the website issues, which really removes benefit number two unless you can sit there by your computer all day and try to get in. Then there is benefit number 3 the magazine, I like it but lets face it, BYO and zymergy are fairly similar and for some strange reason seem to have similar articles in each set of issues.

Now, I am not arguring for or against the AHA, but I think they have come to a critical mass point where it is step up or go home, brewing has exploded as a hobby and they are going to have to grow with the hobby. There are several things they could do to prevent this.

They could move to bigger venues for the NHC conference portion and by bigger I don't mean 500 people, they need to move it to a location that can house 6000 conference go'ers. This would benefit the brewing community and them, as they would make more money on the event.

The competition portion, the can also do several things. They can have a seperate website for each judgeing site. But again, they are filling this up so fast that they need to move to a three tier judging system instead of a 2 tier judging system. So they need to double the amount of entries in the competition to something like 15,000 entries, say 15 sites with a 1000 per site or allocated differently, then have the beers move to a regional competition from there, then the winners move on to the NHC for the national competion. They would have to start earlier and it would take longer, but again, this is what they need to do to keep up with the hobby.

I know people here will disagree with me, and please note that I am just stating my opinion. I just hate to hear people I know talking about removing themselves from membership because of the lack of availability of their benefits. It really should be more of if you are interested in participating there is a spot for you, not sit by your computer hitting the refresh button so you have a chance of getting in. Again this is just my two cents here and nothing more. If AHA is reading, please just consider this the ramblings of a concerned member and someone who loves the hobby and the AHA.
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