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Lager Final Gravity

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Lager Final Gravity

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:09 am
by GloridazeBrewing
I brewed my first lager recently, an Oktoberfest. The OG was 1.059. After 3 weeks, it was down to 1.014. Beersmith says it should finish at 1.011. Will I be able to tell the difference between 1.014 and 1.011? I transferred and chilled it for lagering because I don't want to be drinking Oktoberfest in December. :-) Will the gravity come down during lagering at all?

Re: Lager Final Gravity

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:04 am
by Kaiser
You can't trust the FG number Beersmith gives you since it is based on the average yeast attenuation. The major factor for the actual attenuation is the wort fermentability, which is unknown to Beersmith and probably to you too. You would have to do a fast ferment test to determine it.

Kai

Re: Lager Final Gravity

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:33 pm
by brewinhard
joeg13 wrote:I brewed my first lager recently, an Oktoberfest. The OG was 1.059. After 3 weeks, it was down to 1.014. Beersmith says it should finish at 1.011. Will I be able to tell the difference between 1.014 and 1.011? I transferred and chilled it for lagering because I don't want to be drinking Oktoberfest in December. :-) Will the gravity come down during lagering at all?


Short answer - you probably will not be able to tell the difference between those FG's. I would think that an oktoberfest at 1.014 would actually be preferred for a bit bigger mouthfeel and body anyway. Once you cold crash (lager) your beer the yeast will go dormant and you won't see a drop in the FG.

Re: Lager Final Gravity

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:41 pm
by Stinkfist
Kaiser wrote:You can't trust the FG number Beersmith gives you since it is based on the average yeast attenuation. The major factor for the actual attenuation is the wort fermentability, which is unknown to Beersmith and probably to you too. You would have to do a fast ferment test to determine it.

Kai


I have noticed that in beersmith 2 the FG does change as you change the mash temps, not sure how accurate it is but it does seem to account at least somewhat to fermentability.

Re: Lager Final Gravity

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:45 pm
by Kbar
Out of curiousity, what temperature did you mash out (assuming you are all grain) and what temperature did you ferment at (average).

Thanks!

Re: Lager Final Gravity

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:41 am
by Kaiser
Stinkfist wrote:I have noticed that in beersmith 2 the FG does change as you change the mash temps, not sure how accurate it is but it does seem to account at least somewhat to fermentability.


I haven't used Beersmith in a while and I don't think that there is any reasonable way for software to predict wort fermentability. There are too many factors that affect your wort fermentability and I'd rather see brewers educated in performing a correct Fast Ferment Test than basing their decisions on an estimate created by brewing software.

Kai

Re: Lager Final Gravity

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:35 am
by mtyquinn
With a lager I wouldn't sweat a few points. That beer should be fine.

Re: Lager Final Gravity

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:38 am
by GloridazeBrewing
Kbar wrote:Out of curiousity, what temperature did you mash out (assuming you are all grain) and what temperature did you ferment at (average).

Thanks!


I'm not the most accurate, but the goal was 152. I think I hit it.

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