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Mash Efficiency & IBUs

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Mash Efficiency & IBUs

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:59 pm
by smcluskey
Any one have insight on why a higher mash efficiency raises IBU's?

Re: Mash Efficiency & IBUs

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:58 pm
by spiderwrangler
Where did you hear this? Personal experience, read, a BS show?

Re: Mash Efficiency & IBUs

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:22 pm
by anday6
Mash and boil are pretty separate. The characteristics that carry through from a more efficient mash (thin? Grainy?) may enhance bitterness, but I think it's more to do with hop utilization that increases with gravity.

Are you perceiving that relationship or is there some source like was asked about?

Re: Mash Efficiency & IBUs

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:50 pm
by smcluskey
I'm using iBrewmaster on my Mac and it is very glitchy. That being said, when i adjust the mash efficiency (with-in the program) the IBUs change. I have had a very high mash efficiency using my 5 gallon round cooler the last two 5 gallon batches.

I think the reason being I drain my first runnings, fill up the cooler to capacity, drain, and am forced to repeat 2-3 times before collecting what i need for the boil.

So i am really rinsing the grain bed and getting 80% plus mash efficiency which in iBrewmaster was showing me my IBUs were different.

Re: Mash Efficiency & IBUs

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:06 pm
by Dirk McLargeHuge
smcluskey wrote:I'm using iBrewmaster on my Mac and it is very glitchy. That being said, when i adjust the mash efficiency (with-in the program) the IBUs change. I have had a very high mash efficiency using my 5 gallon round cooler the last two 5 gallon batches.

I think the reason being I drain my first runnings, fill up the cooler to capacity, drain, and am forced to repeat 2-3 times before collecting what i need for the boil.

So i am really rinsing the grain bed and getting 80% plus mash efficiency which in iBrewmaster was showing me my IBUs were different.


Forgive me, I've been drinking and I think I know what's going on. I could be wrong. Someone back me up.

I am making one assumption here. You enter your recipe into the software and then change the efficiency. As your efficiency changes, the OG of your wort changes and the hop extraction rates change, causing the IBUs to change. I calculate my grains against my mash efficiency before I add the hops in the software (not iBrewmaster), and once I get that right, I add the hops to hit my target IBUs.

Let us know if this is not the case.

Re: Mash Efficiency & IBUs

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:23 pm
by spiderwrangler
Yes, I think that's probably what's happening... the volume is the same, but with higher efficiency in your software, you then get a higher gravity. Higher gravity is correlated with a reduction in hop utilization in many calculations...

Re: Mash Efficiency & IBUs

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:27 pm
by Dirk McLargeHuge
spiderwrangler wrote:Yes, I think that's probably what's happening... the volume is the same, but with higher efficiency in your software, you then get a higher gravity. Higher gravity is correlated with a reduction in hop utilization in many calculations...

Woo Hoo! Drinking makes me smarter!

Re: Mash Efficiency & IBUs

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:07 pm
by snowcapt
Dirk McLargeHuge wrote:
spiderwrangler wrote:Yes, I think that's probably what's happening... the volume is the same, but with higher efficiency in your software, you then get a higher gravity. Higher gravity is correlated with a reduction in hop utilization in many calculations...

Woo Hoo! Drinking makes me smarter!

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