Re: Persistent infection? Beer smells like garbage!

Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:28 pm

Tell us about your process from flameout into fermenter(chilling, air exposure, tubing, ball valves)?

After flameout I take the pot off the burner and wrap aluminum foil around the lid to try to seal off the gap where the chiller goes in. I use a standard copper immersion chiller, inserted at 20 minutes before the end of the boil. I have warm tap water (70+) so it takes forever to chill - at least 45 minutes or so. I made a prechiller out of some additional copper tubing, and I was using it the entire time, but next time I am going to try waiting a bit before I dunk it in the ice water bath... After the pot is cool to the touch I pour the wort through a sanitized funnel into the carboy - I don't have a ball valve on my kettle.

Do the ingredients smell / taste right prior to brewing?

Yes.

When does it smell and taste bad? (mid fermentation? or at packaging?)

During the first few days of fermentation I start to pick up the smell and the sample tastes a bit sour.

How/Are you taking samples?

I use a thief that I dunk in star san solution.

What are you smelling/tasting? (Some yeast suck and kick a gnar sulpur out that fades. some yeast it's a sign of poor health/chloramides and chloramines)

I smell a "garbage" aroma, like the bottom of a trash can...

Consider switching up sanitizers and moving to another that's more agreeable with your water situation, maybe iodophor?.

I am thinking about it... I am going to try mixing star san with RO water in my next batch.

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Re: Persistent infection? Beer smells like garbage!

Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:23 pm

I always mix my starsan 1 oz in 5 gallons of distilled water in an ale pail which I continue to use for at least 6-8 brew sessions and rackings/keggings. Never had an issue. You may need new plastic tubing and funnel which could be where you are picking up your infection. I used to make starters with a plastic funnel that gave me an inffection in a starter once, so I tossed it and have used a stainless funnel ever since with no issues.
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Re: Persistent infection? Beer smells like garbage!

Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:05 pm

Hmm.

Hopefully this all clears up with RO water and starsan.

if not, maybe your brew space air is laden with infectious critters. I'd maybe try transferring from kettle to fermenter via siphon instead of the pouring method.

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