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[TastyMcD]

My Janet's Brown Ale recipe is below. I've never made this beer as an extract. I welcome someone to convert this to extract for those who for some reason don't have a copy of Brewing Classic Styles. If you can't get Northern Brewer, I would use either Simcoe, Columbus, or Summit.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Tasty

Batch Size (Gal): 6.00 Wort Size (Gal): 6.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 16.00
Anticipated OG: 1.066 Plato: 16.20
Anticipated SRM: 19.3
Anticipated IBU: 63.2
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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75.0 12.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
7.8 1.25 lbs. Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt 1.033 2
7.8 1.25 lbs. Crystal 40L America 1.034 40
6.3 1.00 lbs. Wheat Malt America 1.038 2
3.1 0.50 lbs. Chocolate Malt America 1.029 350

Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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1.00 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 6.50 19.0 Mash H
1.25 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 6.50 30.8 60 min.
1.00 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 6.50 6.6 15 min.
1.50 oz. Cascade Pellet 6.00 6.8 10 min.
1.50 oz. Cascade Pellet 6.00 0.0 0 min.
2.00 oz. Centennial Pellet 9.00 0.0 Dry Hop

Yeast
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White Labs WLP001 California Ale Yeast

Mash Schedule
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Saccharification Rest Temp : 154 Time: 30
Mash-out Rest Temp : 165 Time: 15
Sparge Temp : 170 Time: 45

[BDawg]

My Janet's Brown Ale recipe is below. I've never made this beer as an extract. I welcome someone to convert this to extract for those who for some reason don't have a copy of Brewing Classic Styles. If you can't get Northern Brewer, I would use either Simcoe, Columbus, or Summit.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Tasty

I think this should be pretty close:

Batch Size (Gal): 6.00 Wort Size (Gal): 6.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 16.00
Anticipated OG: 1.066 Plato: 16.20
Anticipated SRM: 19.3
Anticipated IBU: 63.2
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
8.25 lbs Briess Golden Liquid Malt Extract 1.034
1.25 lbs Briess Wheat Dry Malt Extract 1.043
(everything else below here is exactly the same)
1.25 lbs. Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt 1.033 2
1.25 lbs. Crystal 40L America 1.034 40
0.50 lbs. Chocolate Malt America 1.029 350

Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.00 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 6.50 19.0 Mash H
1.25 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 6.50 30.8 60 min.
1.00 oz. Northern Brewer Pellet 6.50 6.6 15 min.
1.50 oz. Cascade Pellet 6.00 6.8 10 min.
1.50 oz. Cascade Pellet 6.00 0.0 0 min.
2.00 oz. Centennial Pellet 9.00 0.0 Dry Hop

Yeast
-----
White Labs WLP001 California Ale Yeast

Mash Schedule
-------------
Saccharification Rest Temp : 154 Time: 30
Mash-out Rest Temp : 165 Time: 15
Sparge Temp : 170 Time: 45

[6thstreetbrewer]

Mash hops in an extract batch...mmm...this is going to be tricky! Instead of the mash hops up your 60 min. hop addition to 2 ozs.

[Sent From My iPhone]

Mash hops in an extract batch...mmm...this is going to be tricky! Instead of the mash hops up your 60 min. hop addition to 2 ozs.

Maybe you should up the 15 minute addition.

[DannyW]

First Wort Hop them. Warm up the water to 180 or so, cut heat, add extract. Stir, stir, stir until it is ALL dissolved. Add FWH. Return to flame and boil as normal.

[Brew Engineer]

First Wort Hop them. Warm up the water to 180 or so, cut heat, add extract. Stir, stir, stir until it is ALL dissolved. Add FWH. Return to flame and boil as normal.

Is that close to the same thing? I was planning on extract brewing one of the two brown ale recipes in BCS's this weekend, but this technique sounds interesting. I've never heard of FWH in an extract beer.

I'm still deciding if I'll participate in the brew judging, but I'm brewing this recipe either way.

[DannyW]

I've never done it, but it seems like it should work. Supposedly the hops combine in some magical way with the warm wort before the boil starts. This combination seems to persist through the boil and retain a different hops character in the finished beer. Yes I'm being vague; there is lots of fast talk and hand waving involved.

[Sent From My iPhone]

The difference is the hops them selves are not boiled when they're added to the mash, just what's been extracted during the mash. If you add them to the extact before you boil, then boil them, you're going to extract a lot more oils and bitterness than you'd get from a true FWH. I recall someone on the forum (Bug perhaps?) suggesting replacing FWH with a 15-20 minute addition.