Pliny Recipe

[TheDarkSide]

So I was looking through my hard drive the other day, and found a pdf for Pliny The Elder and though this would be a good beer to do next ( since I can't get it out here in the East ). The PDF was from Russian River and had percentages for grains and sugars. Never having worked with percentages before, I tried to input the numbers into Beersmith to come up with a recipe. ( I've included it below ).

Can someone who's brewed Pliny before tell me if I'm close? It seems like the percentages are close to the PDF as well as the gravity. The IBU's are way off but I assume when something is this hoppy, it's hard to calculate IBU's.

Pliny The Elder

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 6.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.00 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: Brew Pot (7.5 gal) and Igloo Xtreme Cooler (17.5 Gal)
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0 Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
14.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 86.90 %
0.65 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4.03 %
0.65 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 4.03 %
0.81 lb Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 5.03 %


3.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [13.90 %] (90 min) Hops 168.4 IBU
0.75 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [13.90 %] (45 min) Hops 32.4 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe [12.30 %] (30 min) Hops 21.7 IBU
2.50 oz Simcoe [12.30 %] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 oz Centennial [8.00 %] (0 min) Hops -

1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [13.90 %] (Dry Hop 12 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Centennial [9.10 %] (Dry Hop 12 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Simcoe [12.30 %] (Dry Hop 12 days) Hops -

0.25 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [13.90 %] (Dry Hop 5 days) Hops -
0.25 oz Centennial [9.10 %] (Dry Hop 5 days) Hops -
0.25 oz Simcoe [12.30 %] (Dry Hop 5 days) Hops -


1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale ( Starter 1.5L )



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.071 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.070 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.016 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.011 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.18 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 7.71 %
Bitterness: 222.5 IBU Calories: 314 cal/pint
Est Color: 6.8 SRM Color: Color

[breyton]

This recipe is widely known and used.

Here is the recipe from RR

http://www.ratebeer.com/Recipe.asp?RecipeID=84

[TheDarkSide]

Interesting...the one I have is on Fred Bonjour's site. Here it is:

http://beerdujour.com/Recipes/1Pliny%20the%20Elder%20clone%20PDF.pdf

I wonder is one older than the other? I think I post something on the AHA forum for Fred asking him where he got his recipe.

Thanks for the recipe Breyton. PLINY...HERE I COME!!!!

[cdburg]

If I had to guess, the pdf version (from Fred Bonjour's site) is the newer one.

From what I remember, Vinnie is using extract for the first two hop additions now, He is also skipping the mash hops, because the farmers taking the grain didn't want the cattle eating the hops. Since most extract is made from CTZ hops, it looks like Vinnie revised the homebrew recipe to use CTZ for the first two additions, in proportions that are close to the IBUs the extract would provide.

[Tom from Raleigh]

Vinnie has published the recipe a few times in different outlets. Last time he was on The Session, he said each time he releases the homebrew recipe, he tweaks the version he produces. As a result, there are a few versions out there.