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My local water supply...any adjustments needed?

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My local water supply...any adjustments needed?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:43 am
by Holt
Here is my water profile according to the averages posted in the most recent report. Please suggest any adjustments that stand out as being necessary to producing great beer.

Lakewood, CA:

Ca 51.0
Mg 8.0
Na 29.0
SO4 38.0
Cl 18.0
HCO3 158.0
PH 8.1

Re: My local water supply...any adjustments needed?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:38 pm
by Bugeater
I wish my water looked that good.

Wayne

Re: My local water supply...any adjustments needed?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:39 pm
by mabrungard
There is a problem in the ion concentrations since they don't balance, but its not too bad.

With the alkalinity level, this water is better suited to beers in the brown color range. It looks like it could be used for lighter colored beers with an acid addition to cut the alkalinity. I'm showing about 0.5 mL of 88% lactic per gallon of mash water to bring the alkalinity down to make it suitable for pale beer brewing. I'm also showing about 0.7 mL of 88% lactic per gallon of sparge water to bring the pH down under 6.

Do revisit the water report or call the water company and find out what the true ion concentrations are. It probably won't affect the recommendations above too much though.

Re: My local water supply...any adjustments needed?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:05 pm
by ajdelange
Holt wrote:Here is my water profile according to the averages posted in the most recent report.


Given that the data are averages it is not at all unusual to see this level of imbalance. Not to mention that nitrate is not listed nor is fluoride ...... So don't worry about the quality of the report. It is better balanced than many! And you aren't going to get a "better" one unless someone does everything (i.e. all the ions) on the same sample on the same day. Even then things like escaping CO2 can throw the balance off somewhat (though a good analyst knows how to minimize that).

This water is fine for brewing a wide range of beers from export to stout. The exception would be those beers for which production with soft water is an important part of the style (helles, Bohemian pils). For those beers this water can be diluted 4:1 or 5:1 with RO or DI water. Undiluted the RA is a bit high so more acid will be required (nearly all beers require some acid for mash pH adjustment) than would be the case with a less carbonaceous water. Dilution is a great way to "get rid of" bicarbonate. Diluting 1:1 cuts it in half.

The best way to handle this is to obtain a pH meter, check the pH of the mash and add 1 % sauermalz (acidulated malt) per 0.1 pH lowering desired. Thus if mash pH comes in at 5.8 with water right out of the tap and you want 5.4 (a reasonable figure) you would add 4% sauermalz and then, of course, recheck pH after that addition. This is the way continental brewers would procede (though they might use lactic fermented wort called 'sauergut' rather than saermalz). British brewers would add CRS (Carbonate Reducing Solution - a mix of food grade hydrochloric and sulfuric acids which is not available outside the UK to my knowledge).

You might want to have a look at the primer at http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f128/brewin ... er-198460/.

Re: My local water supply...any adjustments needed?

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:44 pm
by Mylo
Bugeater wrote:I wish my water looked that good.

Wayne


+1 ... My water sux!!!

Mull

Re: My local water supply...any adjustments needed?

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:58 pm
by Whitebeard_Brewer
Mylo wrote:
+1 ... My water sux!!!


Too easy!! :nutters:

Re: My local water supply...any adjustments needed?

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:41 pm
by Mylo
Whitebeard_Brewer wrote:
Mylo wrote:
+1 ... My water sux!!!


Too easy!! :nutters:


Dude, my water is so hard, you can crack a tooth on it!


Mylo

Re: My local water supply...any adjustments needed?

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:33 pm
by Bugeater
Mylo wrote:
Whitebeard_Brewer wrote:
Mylo wrote:
+1 ... My water sux!!!


Too easy!! :nutters:


Dude, my water is so hard, you can crack a tooth on it!


Mylo


Mine is so hard I have to brush my teeth with Lime-a-Way!

Wayne

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