Coopers yeast and brewing a Mild

Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:31 am

My question is semi directed at Jamil, but of course I will attempt to absorb the wisdom of anyone who would care to help me in my ignorance :)

I was listening to the Jamil show about the style Mild and wondering if perhaps yeast cultured from a bottle of Coopers Sparkling Ale might be an appropriate yeast for this (and maybe others) english style of beer. Kinda fruity, kinda buscuity/bready.... not sure.

I dont think that I have ever tried a mild, apart from Coopers Mild and I dont know if that is a reasonable example of the style. If it is, I am kind of working on the assuption that coopers yeast would be OK.

Otherwise I will probably go for the Safale 04. I am only brewing 12litre batches and so a Wyeast pack works out at more than a dollar per litre for me. Trying to be frugal.

Also, would pitching onto the yeast left over from the mild be OK for a 6%ish APA?

Thanks. Thirsty
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:21 pm

Thirsty...The Coopers Mild, realy is nothing like a brittish mild. And the coopers yeast is realy not going to give you the fruity esters that the British ale yeast will do.....its kind of like using fosters lager yeast to make a german lager......


When are you going to make this brew, I have a sample of brit ale yeast i need to put onto slants but i wont be doing that till next week, your welcome to one of you want.....

The other option is to get a smack pack and split it into 12 test tubes of 10 ml each and that will last you a long time

Failing that saf ale is a brit strain anyway

This comes from there webpage
http://www.fermentis.com/FO/EN/pdf/Safa ... 2safale%22
[img]Ingredients:
Yeast (Saccharomyces cerevisiae), rehydrating agent
Properties:
A well-known, commercial English ale yeast, selected for its fast fermentation character and its ability to form a very compact sediment at the end of the fermentation, helping to improve beer clarity. This yeast is recommended for the production of a large range of ale beers and is specially well adapted to cask-conditioned ales and fermentation in cylindro-conical tanks. Sedimentation: high. Final gravity: medium.
Dosage:
50 g/hl to 80 g/hl.
Pitching instructions:
Re-hydrate the dry yeast into yeast cream in a stirred vessel prior to pitching. Sprinkle the dry yeast in 10 times its own weight of sterile water or wort at 27C ± 3C. Once the expected weight of dry yeast is reconstituted into cream by this method (this takes about 15 to 30 minutes), maintain a gentle stirring for another 30 minutes. Then pitch the resultant cream into the fermentation vessel.
Alternatively, pitch dry yeast directly in the fermentation vessel providing the temperature of the wort is above 20C. Progressively sprinkle the dry yeast into the wort ensuring the yeast covers all the surface of wort available in order to avoid clumps. Leave for 30 minutes and then mix the wort e.g. using aeration.
Fermentation temperature:
Recommended fermentation temperature: 15C – 24C.
Packaging:
4 display units each 38 x 11.5g nitrogen-flushed sachets in cardboard box.
20 x 500g vacuum-packed sachets in cardboard box.
1 x 10 kg vacuum-packed sachets in cardboard box.
Storage:
Store in cool (<10C> 6 x 109 / gramme
Total bacteria*:
< 5 / ml
Acetic acid bacteria*:
< 1 / ml
Lactobacillus*:
< 1 / ml
Pediococcus*:
< 1 / ml
Wild yeast non Saccharomyces*:
<1> 6 x 106 viable cells / ml
Important notice:
Please note that any change to a fermentation process may alter the final product quality. We therefore advise that fermentation trials are carried out prior to using our yeast commercially.[/img]
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:44 pm

Thanks Oz,

I was going to brew it this weekend, and follow it straight up with either and APA or a Brown Ale on the yeast cake. So I'm a bit too speedy to take you up on your offer of a slant. I appreciate it though.

Guess I will toss the coopers starter I have got going (plenty more coopers in the fridge) and buy myself a packet of the S04. Soon.... oh yes, soon... I will have a fridge that I can dedicate to brewing, then I will have somewhere to store yeast samples in tubes or even start doing plates/slants of my own.

Thanks for the info

Thirsty

PS. Fosters Lager yeast I can get by the bucketful... want some? :wink:
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Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:54 pm

On a 20 odd ltr batch I would use 2 saf ale


HEy that fosters yeast would be great for clean ozzie lagers
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