Re: Cold crashing and oxidation

Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:17 pm

Stinkfist wrote:Personally I think the part about the crash cooling that makes it worse is, that this exchange is all happening at the time the liquid is absorbing as much gases from its environment as it can. When you add oxygen and the temperature is relative constant, it has basically absorbed all it will(unless you are moving it around, which is why it is best to do a closed transfer).

This sounds like something that could be funded from the AHA Money they have for these kind of things..


Actually, that's a great point that I didn't take account into my calculations.
The cooling will allow more gas to dissolve into solution at the same pressure. This increases the total volume of air that must be drawn in through the airlock, adding to the O2 that is coming in.

The partial pressure of O2 inside and outside the beer when the cooling starts is zero.
We know that the partial pressure will equalize inside and outside for each gas over time. Any O2 that enters the carboy will therefore equalize itself passing into the beer until the partial pressure of O2 inside matches the partial pressure of O2 outside. This goes not only for the O2, but the CO2, N2, and any other gas in the local atmosphere within that carboy/fermentation vessel.

Bottom line is that more than just the change in volume will be drawn in, and half of that total amount O2 will dissolve into the beer.
My gut tells me that yes, this is probably significant.
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Re: Cold crashing and oxidation

Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:40 pm

If we weren't try to solve problems that probably don't exist, would this really be homebrewing?
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Cold crashing and oxidation

Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:07 am

I will have to quote a good friend of mine "Why? - Because we can!"

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Re: Cold crashing and oxidation

Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:31 pm

Holy shit you guys are making my mind spin! I shouldn't have had a beer before reading the last few posts....Lots of food for thought.
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Re: Cold crashing and oxidation

Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:03 pm

How do conicals in pro breweries work when cold crashing? Do they just cap the conical, or is there something that actively feeds CO2, like a cask breather, as the pressure changes?
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Re: Cold crashing and oxidation

Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:20 pm

I thought I had ordered everything I needed to fix this issue, but didn't realize the CO2 swivel nuts are different, so need to find a 1/4" MFL to 1/4" Female or male NPT, anyone know where I can get one that doesn't cost $9 dollars to ship? You think a welding shop would carry something like this?
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Re: Cold crashing and oxidation

Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:29 pm

Stinkfist wrote:I thought I had ordered everything I needed to fix this issue, but didn't realize the CO2 swivel nuts are different, so need to find a 1/4" MFL to 1/4" Female or male NPT, anyone know where I can get one that doesn't cost $9 dollars to ship? You think a welding shop would carry something like this?


Home Depot or Lowe's. Fairly standard fitting. That is our 48F-4-4 fitting from Parker. 1/4" SAE45 flare to 1/4" Pipe - male ends.
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Re: Cold crashing and oxidation

Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:07 pm

cdburg wrote:How do conicals in pro breweries work when cold crashing? Do they just cap the conical, or is there something that actively feeds CO2, like a cask breather, as the pressure changes?


While I am not a pro brewer, and never have been, those that I have seen have either capped the tank, or more commonly moved to a bright tank with CO2 to crash and carbonate (just like you can do with a corny keg).
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