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Hi,
Was wondering if anyone knows if any of the beers that use Pacman yeast are bottle conditioned? Can't get hold of any Pacman in England, but my local beer warehouse carries some rogue beers and a few other US ones too. Would like to grow some up from bottle if possible.
Thanks
Dave

I believe they are bottle conditioned. I've been wanting to get my hands on that yeast for a while, too, but haven't gone to the trouble of growing it up from the bottle.
I always miss it when Wyeast does their limited release.

I believe that all Rogue beers are unfiltered (but not bottle conditioned) and you can carefully build up a starter from the bottom of most of their beers. I am certain that Shakespeare Stout is one that will work. I am less certain about Kells and Daddy's Lil Helper. If you stay with the American ales from them you should be good to go.

Good luck!

[EDIT-I'm teaching a class tomorrow at the Rogue Issaquah Brewpub. I'll see if i can find out for certain. Which beers can you get? Ill see if any match the list.]

I was living in Cambridge last year, and I tried building up a Pacman yeast starter from the bottom of Dead Guy Ale bottles that I found at the Beer Warehouse in King's Lynn, and it didn't work for me. A friend of mine had a yeast lab with a microscope, and he looked at the yeast from the bottom of the bottle and found no movement. I'm not saying don't try, but I didn't have any luck.

That's the one, beers of europe is my nearest. Last time I went in, they had dead guy and Shakespeare's stout. Will give it a try, at least I will have the beers to drink if it doesn't work.
Thanks

zipfly wrote:That's the one, beers of europe is my nearest. Last time I went in, they had dead guy and Shakespeare's stout. Will give it a try, at least I will have the beers to drink if it doesn't work.

So true. Good luck. Oh, and grab some 5 AM Saint by Brew Dog when you're in there again. You won't be sorry. Also, Brew Dog have a pub in Camden Town that carries tons of American specialty brews. If you're ever in London, it's definitely worth a visit.

BeaverBarber wrote:I was living in Cambridge last year, and I tried building up a Pacman yeast starter from the bottom of Dead Guy Ale bottles that I found at the Beer Warehouse in King's Lynn, and it didn't work for me. A friend of mine had a yeast lab with a microscope, and he looked at the yeast from the bottom of the bottle and found no movement. I'm not saying don't try, but I didn't have any luck.

Hmmm .... yeast don't swim, they more ride the currents. Motility is not an indicator of viability for yeast and most bacteria. Vital staining (new methylene blue) will help judge viability, as will adding wort to the dregs and then identifying budding under the microscope.

animaldoc wrote:

BeaverBarber wrote:I was living in Cambridge last year, and I tried building up a Pacman yeast starter from the bottom of Dead Guy Ale bottles that I found at the Beer Warehouse in King's Lynn, and it didn't work for me. A friend of mine had a yeast lab with a microscope, and he looked at the yeast from the bottom of the bottle and found no movement. I'm not saying don't try, but I didn't have any luck.

Hmmm .... yeast don't swim, they more ride the currents. Motility is not an indicator of viability for yeast and most bacteria. Vital staining (new methylene blue) will help judge viability, as will adding wort to the dregs and then identifying budding under the microscope.

Uhhhh....mine didn't work.