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Does overpitching reduce attenuation?

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Does overpitching reduce attenuation?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:48 am
by Crackin
I brewed a Dunkel, o.g. 1.054 and it finished 3 weeks later at 1.020.(62% AA). I purposefully overpitched as an experiment because of some acetaldahyde issues I have been having. I re-picthed 500 ml of non-separated slurry from a previous batch, which is about twice the suggested amount. Can overpitching reduce attenuation like that?

Doug

Re: Does overpitching reduce attenuation?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:57 am
by BigNastyBrew
Crackin wrote: I purposefully overpitched as an experiment because of some acetaldahyde issues I have been having.


Could be wrong here but doesn't overpitching CAUSE acetaldehyde? Yeast run out of food in competition with each other? Thought I heard or read that.

Re: Does overpitching reduce attenuation?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:22 am
by Crackin
I believe you are correct. This was just an experiment, because with the 6 previous lagers, I have had acetaldahyde, and I thought I was pitching the correct amount. That means, if anything, I was underpitching. The other factor is O2, so I added extra O2 this time too. Just curious about the attenuation, thing, though.

Re: Does overpitching reduce attenuation?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:27 am
by BigNastyBrew
Not sure if it helps you much but I've been doing a few lagers over the last few months and I have found that what I prefer is to use more yeast vials and smaller starter to get the right pitch rate versus big starter and less vials. It appears as though I get a cleaner fermentation and better attenuation that way.

Re: Does overpitching reduce attenuation?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:12 pm
by Crackin
What about re-pitching? Or do you start with fresh yeast everytime?

Re: Does overpitching reduce attenuation?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:18 pm
by BigNastyBrew
The short of it: I use fresh yeast every time.

I do not re-pitch, yet. Not because I don't ever want to but more because I haven't learned that yet. I jumped into this hobby head first and have learned so much this year. I started with Mr. Beer on Christmas of last year. I placed re-pitching further down on the to-do list, if you will.

Re: Does overpitching reduce attenuation?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:37 pm
by dunleav1
I've had better attenuating beers when repitching especially lagers.
I like the 3rd and 4th generation the best.
I always pitch 150ml more than the mymalty calculator.

Re: Does overpitching reduce attenuation?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:42 pm
by brewinhard
Have you other lagers/beers underattenuated as well? Have you checked your thermometer's calibration lately? 1020 may sound high and look high, but if you carb that sucker up to 2-3 volumes, you won't even be able to tell the difference if it had finished at a 1015 or so. This I know from experience with my last pumpkin spice ale that finished at a 1020 and tastes delicious (even though I was shooting for a 1015)!

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