Rinsing Yeast from a Starter

Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:45 am

Long time listener, first time poster - thanks to everyone who's made my beer better so far. That said, I've starter re-using yeast in the last year or so, and wanted some feedback on the technique I've been using.

I've been sizing my starters using the Mr. Malty pitching rate calculator, set for a 12-14 gallon batch. Since I only brew 6-7 gallons at a time, I pitch half the starter I've made, and then:
(1) rinse the remainder (let the yeast floc out, decant the spent wort, add a measured amount of cooled boiled water,)
(2) shake up the rinsed yeast, and
(3) re-package it in sanitized White Labs vials.

I reuse white labs vials because I know about how much space is taken up by yeast in them. Knowing that, I can approximate how many cells of the rinsed yeast I'm using when I make another starter.

Rinsing yeast from an oversized starter keeps hops out of my rinsed yeast altogether. Also, because I'm using extra-light DME for the starters, there's no flavor transfer, and I don't have to mess around my brewing schedule to go from lighter to darker beers. And, from my limited ability to tell, and small sample size, it also seems like I'm still getting the benefits that come from reused yeast (particularly clean, fast, vigorous fermentations).

I do think that there's some room for improvement in my technique: brewing a DOUBLE sized starter gives me two or three vials of rinsed yeast. If I'm using just one of the new vials at per starter, and brewing just once or twice a month, then the still-unused rinsed vials stay in my fridge for as long as a month or two, which is longer than I'm really comfortable with, particularly after multiple generations. In the future, I might just make a starter-and-a-half.

That change aside, is there anything that I'm missing? This seems much simpler than trying to separate yeast from the trub of a six gallon batch of pale ale, and easier than trying to top-crop from a carboy. Thoughts?
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Re: Rinsing Yeast from a Starter

Sun May 01, 2011 3:11 pm

It seems like you are adding steps that you don't have to take to get healthy active yeast for re pitching. The more you handle the higher the chance you will get bugs in your yeast. If i were you I woud not make the extra starter and just make enough for your one batch. Yeast get better after one generation and really shine after generation 3. Not only that but they will be highly active and healthy vs one that has been sitting in a WL vial.

If you are worried about trub in your yeast you can either fix that problem after flame out or by rinsing the yeast after fermentation. You can siphon the wort off the kettle after its cooled and everything is settled. You can also separate the trub from the yeast by adding sterile water and giving it a good shake then decant off the healthy yeast and leave behind the trub.

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Re: Rinsing Yeast from a Starter

Tue May 03, 2011 10:36 am

Pericles wrote:I reuse white labs vials because I know about how much space is taken up by yeast in them. Knowing that, I can approximate how many cells of the rinsed yeast I'm using when I make another starter.


The only problem I see with this is the "density" of different yeast strains. By that, I mean that highly flocculant yeast are going to take up less volume than a low floc yeast for the same number of cells.
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