White labs saison blend (wlp568)

Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:22 am

Does anyone have experience with this yeast blend and have recommendations for fermentation temperatures? It seems like the saison strain would want to go high, but the other strains might not give off a good character at normal saison temps. I want this to have a lot of saison character, but I'm just worried about rough flavors form the other strains.
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Re: White labs saison blend (wlp568)

Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:33 am

Nah. 70F-80F is the recommended range for WLP568. I just started a saison using this yeast blend and I'm starting at 70F, then will ramp up to 80F over a week. It'll be fine.
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Re: White labs saison blend (wlp568)

Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:51 am

glasseye wrote:Nah. 70F-80F is the recommended range for WLP568. I just started a saison using this yeast blend and I'm starting at 70F, then will ramp up to 80F over a week. It'll be fine.


My saison is still finishing. I fermented at 70-72 for 2 weeks and ramped up from 72 by 1 degree per day until I reached 80. A difference for me: I wasn't able to make a starter and didn't have enough vials, so I ended up pitching Wyeast 3724 with this WLP 568. The yeast seemed to quit after the ramp up, I probably needed to let it go a little longer initially. Friends and others say it is common for this yeast to quit before you reach your final gravity target. The flavor is very good now, it just needs to dry out. I am finishing this with champagne yeast to ferment another 16 points.

If you have capability to grow a starter, friends say the best yeast they've used is growing from the small culture in the bottom of the bottle conditioned Saison Dupont.
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Re: White labs saison blend (wlp568)

Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:46 pm

Waiting two weeks before ramping up the temperature is way too long IMO. I start ramping up right after the krausen falls (2 days or so).
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Re: White labs saison blend (wlp568)

Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:50 pm

glasseye wrote:Nah. 70F-80F is the recommended range for WLP568. I just started a saison using this yeast blend and I'm starting at 70F, then will ramp up to 80F over a week. It'll be fine.



Be careful of starting the ferment too high b/c this can lead to fusel alcohol production in the finished product which won't go away. The best way to get the nicest profile for this style is to let the wort ferment at 68 degrees for 48 hrs and then begin the ramp up slowly over the course of a week or so to hit your high end temps to dry out the beer. This also controls the esters and spiciness of the typical saison yeast.
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Re: White labs saison blend (wlp568)

Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:49 am

That's exactly what I'm doing, except I started at 70F instead of 68F. I think it'll be fine. ;)
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