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Hiya!

On Justin's and Jamil's recommendation I went and bought some Amarillo. (Strange that we can get them so easy here, must be because they're less well known here and the shop hasn't sold out this year's alotment yet...)

Anyway, has anybody tried using Cascades and Amarillo together in an American pale ale? Or are they different enough that the flavours would "kill" each other?

I have used them in the same.. Quite good.. Now I do an all Amarillo Pale. Friends cant get enough of it. Give that try if you have enough.

I ordered 200 grams, that's slightly less than 8 ounces, I think. I'm thinking of doing an APA with just a large 10 minute addition like Jamil said on the APA show! Should be interesting (Great show BTW, like usual!)

Anyway, so your experience is that Amarillo by itself is better than a mix Amarillo/Cascade?

I dry hopped Amarillo with an all Centennial IPA and it is awesome. I think you are safe to blend Amarillo with the Big Cs.

My last Pale ale was: magnum (bittering) Cascade (flavor) Amarillo(aroma). I think it came out nice.

HH

Yeah, I think you're good to mix them all. However, if you're mixing, save the amarillo for flavor or aroma. Their bittering character will be overwhelmed by anything with any significant level of cohumulone.

This isn't Jamil's recipe, but is one that I brewed to test out late hopping after Jamil said it was great. It was awesome, the bittering wasn't at all overpowering.

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Amarillo Pale Ale
Brewer: Fred Bonjour
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 7.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.046 SG
Estimated Color: 9.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 49.0 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 68.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
7 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 70.0 %
1 lbs Munich I (Weyermann) (6.0 SRM) Grain 10.0 %
8.0 oz Aromatic Malt (Dingemans) (19.0 SRM) Grain 5.0 %
8.0 oz Barley, Flaked (Briess) (1.7 SRM) Grain 5.0 %
8.0 oz Caramel Malt - 20L (Briess) (20.0 SRM) Grain 5.0 %
8.0 oz Caramel Malt - 60L (Briess) (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.0 %
2.00 oz Amarillo (leaf) [9.40%] (15 min) Hops 29.7 IBU
3.00 oz Amarillo (leaf) [9.40%] (5 min) Hops 17.9 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo (leaf) [9.40%] (1 min) Hops 1.3 IBU
1 Pkgs Nottingham Yeast (Lallemand #-) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion 152
Total Grain Weight: 10.00 lb
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Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Sacrification Add 13.00 qt of water at 163.5 F 152.0 F 60 min

Notes:
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Batch Sparged +2.3 gal drain, 3.5 drain
1/29/2006 6.5 brix 1.013 FG

I did an American IPA with the follwing hop schedule, and I think it turned out great.

1/2 oz Columbus 60 min
1/2 oz Centennial 30 min
1 oz Amarillo 15 min
1 oz Cascade 5 min
1 oz Amarillo 5 min

OG 1.070
IBU 60.2

Beer was definitely bitter, but with a very nice citrusy aroma.

I've got a couple of bottles I need to send into the BN, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.