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Victory Brewing is dead to me.

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Victory Brewing is dead to me.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:54 am
by brewranger
My homebrew club organized a 25-person visit (about an hour away) to Victory and an "exclusive" brewer's tour, followed by lunch on our own. We arrived in a school bus about 30 minutes before opening and waited in the parking lot.

Several members brought some of their beer to share with the group and sample. Since we couldn't get in the brewery right away, about 5-6 members had their samples in Solo cups and were discussing beer on the bus in the parking lot.

At about 11:30, we were "greeted" by a manager who immediately said no one was allowed in because he saw people drinking on the bus and they don't allow "pregaming". In particular myself and another club officer "smelled like beer". Was I drinking yes, were we drunk at 11am, no. Not to mention I was cleaning up a carboy explosion minutes before leaving on the trip. But I digress, our arguments that we won't be driving (see rented bus) or asking if there was a "cool down" period were shot down. Alas, when the floor manager came out to back up her cohort, she realized that we hadn't yet paid for our tour so they begrudgingly let us in...but absolutely NO drinking once inside.

We paid for the exclusive brewers tour, but our tour guide wasn't a brewer at all. In fact the first words out of the tour guides mouth were "I work in the gift shop, so I don't know about brewing. I do know the ABV and prices!"

After our lackluster tour we were escorted to the dining area, although the place was largely empty, they refused to let us use more than 4 tables...which we did not all fit at. So a few of us had to sit at the bar....oh yeah they said we are allowed to drink now. About half way through lunch, one of our more sober members was ejected. We were never given an explained. At that time we cut our visit to victory about 3 hours short without filling our ~30 growlers, packed up and headed to Iron Hill West Chester. Upon arrival they were more than happy to take care of our entire group. In fact the bartender at IH's response to Victory was "Those guy's are dicks".

We already had somewhat of a bad impression of Victory based on a few members previous trips to the brewery and the fact that they refused to donate to our clubs homebrew day (not saying because they didn't we dont like them, but every other brewery in the area had no problem) Overall, the staff was discourteous and flat out rude at some points and at no time did we feel welcomed or even like customers. The best business decision Victory made of late was to curtail brewery tours (effective July 4) -- that will significantly reduce the public's exposure to perhaps the worst customer service and we're-better-than-you attitudes that I've encountered in quite some time.

Re: Victory Brewing is dead to me.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:24 am
by captain carrot
You should write a letter or send an email to the owners. They may not realize how bad their employees are treating their customers. Things may change.
Drinking in the parking lot may have worsened their already inhospitable attitude.
Just a thought.

Re: Victory Brewing is dead to me.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:24 am
by BeerPal
Wow. Fortunately, shitty attitudes like the ones you encountered at Victory are few and far in between in the craft beer community. I hope you have related this story to the management there.

Re: Victory Brewing is dead to me.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:01 am
by TheTodd
I know Brewranger. Personally, I wouldn't want him hanging around either. :D :asshat:

On the other hand, the described behavior certainly doesn't sound like the norm in craft breweries, and with about a dozen other award-winning breweries within an hour or two, it sure doesn't seem like a good business practice. I hope you guys will follow up with upper management and make sure they are aware of what went down. Hopefully, they don't realize what's happening and will institute change. If they're still OK with it, then that's their problem.

Re: Victory Brewing is dead to me.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:17 pm
by BeerPal
TheTodd wrote:I hope you guys will follow up with upper management and make sure they are aware of what went down. Hopefully, they don't realize what's happening and will institute change. If they're still OK with it, then that's their problem.

Unfortunately, this kind of thing usually starts at the top. But if enough people bitch, the top gets the message.

Re: Victory Brewing is dead to me.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:08 pm
by brewranger
Yeah we have done a ton of local tours, dogfish, philly brewing co, manayunk brewing, flying fish and all are more than welcoming.

we will be (if not already) contacting the upper management.

Re: Victory Brewing is dead to me.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:24 pm
by snowcapt
captain carrot wrote:You should write a letter or send an email to the owners. They may not realize how bad their employees are treating their customers. Things may change.
Drinking in the parking lot may have worsened their already inhospitable attitude.
Just a thought.

+1
Fuck writing "upper management". Contact the owner, directly. They don't want this shit being done to people that want to spend money at their joint. Or writing threads like this.
I think that if they give a shit about it, heads will roll....Just sayin'
:jnj

Re: Victory Brewing is dead to me.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:55 pm
by Cody
And let us know what comes of this.

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