Re: Brewing for a Restaurant

Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:39 pm

blueberry wrote:Thank you adam,

Glad I could help.

The more I looked into it I was realizing that Michigan sucks for this type of thing.

The two worst things you can have in Michigan are beer and a pistol. Both have BS regulations and the state won't change the archaic laws that are superseded by technology.

Thanks for all your help everybody. I will just keep to myself and brew for me and my friends.

Probably safe for most everyone. The key thing I've found in researching other states is it boils down to whether they have a 3 tier system law or not. California (go figure) and New Hampshire allows for self distribution. Michigan and Wisconsin (#1 beer consumption per capita in the US) have a 3 tier system law. You must sell on the premises with a brewpub or operate a brewery that sells to wholesale only and cannot be the wholesaler also.

One rant I have about the self distribution ban is this: How the fuck can I expect a distributor (wholesaler) to sell my product when I'm limited by the means in which it is sold? Who knows how to sell my product the best, some company pimping 45 brands of booze or the actual person making the beer? With a 3 tier system law it purposely places manufacturer (brewery) out of touch with the end user of the product (consumer) or the retailer who is in touch with the consumers more than me? I started and operate a few different businesses and I love interacting with my customers. Tell me what you like, what you don't like, why you like doing business with me instead of my competition, am I easier to do business with than the other guy, what are your likes and dislikes with this industry product? Why in the flying fuck would government cripple a business with regulations that is entitled to pay the same government that is regulating the hell out of them a tax on production of goods? I don't want to sell food I want to make and sell beer. That's why I'm a fucking brewery. Give me the license, I will make beer and pay tax to you on the amount of production that is packaged for sale for consumption and you stay the fuck out of my way regarding the manner in which it's sold. If you have less restrictions on my business it's easier to sell it and make profit. You again tax me on my profit. Deregulate, increase tax revenue. Governments love that shit. Damn that shit pisses me off.

edit: I don't know if she had any part of this but Fuck Granholm.

I've only lived in Michigan since 2005 (Wisconsin native) but I don't think she did. I share your elated celebration in her passing as Governor.
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Re: Brewing for a Restaurant

Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:39 am

Adam wrote:Why in the flying fuck would government cripple a business with regulations that is entitled to pay the same government that is regulating the hell out of them a tax on production of goods?


Because entrenched companies in the market like these high barriers to entry for competition, and bribe... err, "contribute" to lawmakers to get these things done.
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